In Part Two of our exclusive interview with Avril Lavigne, we chat about collaborations on her fifth studio album with shock-rocker Marilyn Manson and fiancé Chad Kroeger of Nickelback.
Avril also reveals a secret collab with a high-profile female pop star, and discusses why she tends to prefer working with men over women.
There are some pretty interesting collabs on the album that you’ve teased so far. Marilyn Manson – how did that come about?
I wrote a song called Bad Girl. It’s a heavier tune and I thought his voice would be perfect on it, so I hit him up. I called him and he came over to the studio and he really liked the track and he just put some vocals down on it.
He was a pro and he did an amazing job. I really appreciate him as an artist and I love his style and I really respect him and his art, and I thought it was really cool to have him on this record.
What was he like in person? And what was your relationship like?
We go way back. I met him when I was 18, went to his show and hung out backstage, and he’s just really smart and he’s very artistic, and he really likes music, and he’s a great performer, and he has his own style that I think is dope and…. he rocks!
He puts on a great concert live and he also is dabbling in directing, directing music videos and short films and stuff like that, so he’s a very creative man.
You've also got collaborations with Chad Kroeger on the album... can you tell us a bit more about those songs? There’s a duet.
Yes, I have a ballad with Chad which is kind of like a love ballad that we sing together. I have a song called Hello Kitty, which I wrote about Hello Kitty because I’m obsessed, and it’s a really fun thing that I’ve never done before. It kind of has a kind of glitchy, electronic feel to it and it’s... the only one on the record that sounds like that. It’s really different and a lot of my friends I’ve played it for really like it. I’m having a lot of fun with that one.
Do you have any idea what’s going to be the next single?
I think probably a song called Rock and Roll.
So tell us about it!
To me... it’s rock and roll, it’s a way of life – it’s a fashion, it’s a spirit and it’s also very similar to the first single. You know, the rock and roll spirit like, 'WOOOO!' and going all out.
And it’s LOUD, impressive and it stands for so many other things than just music – that’s really what it comes down to - and it’s a song that I’m just putting the final touches to now. I wish I could tell you more about it, but you’ll have to wait.
Are there any other collaborations on the album that you can tell us about?
Umm…that one, which is why I can’t say anything yet – we’re in the process of making that happen.
Can you give us a hint?
No, because it’s not confirmed! I’m trying to do something right now. Like, I’ve been in the studio for the past four days working and I can’t really say anything until it’s done.
But yeah, Chad, Manson, and this album compared to the last one is more up, more pop, but still has a bit of a rock edge to it, which I love.
The tone of the record... a lot of it is like, nostalgic, and there’s a lot of summer songs. It’s not just a record about break-ups, make-ups and falling in love – there’s a lot more to it which I’m happy about.
Can we expect any female collaborations? Do you prefer working with men?
I hope so! That’s what I’m working on now!
Oooh.... Avril you tease!
Ooooooh...
What would be some dream female collaborations then?
We’ll see! Fingers crossed!
What do you think is different about working with men, versus working with women?
You are right, I tend to work more with men. I don’t know, I mean... I always hang out with my band, who are guys. My friends are always guys, I used to always hang out with guys in school growing up. I was kind of like one of the boys, played a lot of sports and yeah, I do write my songs with guy collaborators. I have done some with other women, but it typically ends up that way - I’m not really sure why.
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